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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 15, 2012 14:38:43 GMT -6
Anybody watching this Texans-Ravens game? J.J. Watt is DOMINATING.
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Post by matt51180 on Jan 15, 2012 14:47:54 GMT -6
Yep, I'm seeing the same thing. It's amazing what can happen when a defense has more than one guy who can put pressure on the QB.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 15, 2012 14:59:52 GMT -6
Gary Kubiak should be kicked in the nuts - 2:00 left with two timeouts in Baltimore territory needing a TD to tie and instead of running Foster, he's got Yates throwing deep. And of course, it gets picked off. TERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE playcalling there.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Jan 15, 2012 20:19:48 GMT -6
He didn't have Yates throw deep. Yates threw deep. He could have taken a shorter route, or dumped it off. He CHOSE to throw into coverage. Every pass play (just about) has a deep route. There was nothing wrong with that play call. There was something terribly wrong with the execution.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 15, 2012 21:21:26 GMT -6
He didn't have Yates throw deep. Yates threw deep. He could have taken a shorter route, or dumped it off. He CHOSE to throw into coverage. Every pass play (just about) has a deep route. There was nothing wrong with that play call. There was something terribly wrong with the execution. they shouldn't have been throwing in that situation at all |
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Jan 15, 2012 21:29:07 GMT -6
He didn't have Yates throw deep. Yates threw deep. He could have taken a shorter route, or dumped it off. He CHOSE to throw into coverage. Every pass play (just about) has a deep route. There was nothing wrong with that play call. There was something terribly wrong with the execution. they shouldn't have been throwing in that situation at all I disagree. I like aggressive coaches. If they had just run it over and over (and lost) you would have been saying they should have thrown. You realize how long it takes them to get everyone out of a big pile of players after a running play? It would have severely limited the number of plays they could run if they ONLY ran the ball. |
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 16, 2012 9:02:02 GMT -6
they shouldn't have been throwing in that situation at all I disagree. I like aggressive coaches. If they had just run it over and over (and lost) you would have been saying they should have thrown. You realize how long it takes them to get everyone out of a big pile of players after a running play? It would have severely limited the number of plays they could run if they ONLY ran the ball. I don't think they should have run it over and over (unless it was repeatedly effective), but Foster put up almost 100 yards in the first half against what has traditionally been an almost impossible-to-run-on defense, so I think it makes much more sense to rely on him in that late game situation than the EXTREMELY SHAKY 5th round rookie QB. Time at that point really wasn't a factor at all - they were already in Baltimore territory with two minutes and two timeouts left...PLENTY of time. And if they were going to throw it there, they should have done something more high percentage. The Ravens were there for the taking - had a +4 turnover margin AT HOME and they still only won by a touchdown. |
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Post by mexicanjunior on Jan 16, 2012 9:37:03 GMT -6
Probably should have run a few more screens to Arian Nation...
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 16, 2012 9:38:02 GMT -6
Probably should have run a few more screens to Arian Nation... YAYUS |
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Jan 16, 2012 11:45:02 GMT -6
probably should have taken the dump off pass instead of forcing the ball down field. That has nothing to do with play calling and everything to do with reading the defense.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 16, 2012 13:49:23 GMT -6
probably should have taken the dump off pass instead of forcing the ball down field. That has nothing to do with play calling and everything to do with reading the defense. i guess, but i wouldn't think they'd be giving yates much leeway to improvise from the primary play call |
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Jan 16, 2012 14:38:29 GMT -6
It isn't an improvisation to read the defense. It is not like they sent ONE guy out into a pass route. They had several receivers out there. Why are you having such a hard time understanding this?
1 WR goes deep.
1 WR runs a slant.
1 TE runs a curl in the middle of the field.
1 RB checks the DE/LB (maybe chipping) then goes into the flat
The QB checks the deep route, safety is over the top, looks at slant, LB is dropping under it, checks TE, covered by other LB, drops it to the RB in the flat.
So...you're saying in the above scenario, if the QB ignores the safety over the top of the deep route, it is the coach's fault? The QB made a poor play, but that isn't a poor play call. You think it was a poor play call to send Vernon Davis on a deep crossing route, which is a much longer throw to the middle of the field, than running the ball with Gore or throwing a screen?
Smith made the right read. Yates did not. It is as simple as that.
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Post by bigdave1310 on Jan 16, 2012 15:01:50 GMT -6
Some times it's like watching a retard dribble a basketball. Honestly Bob can't comprehend why the ball doesn't bounce backup everytime.
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Post by mexicanjunior on Jan 16, 2012 15:02:40 GMT -6
It isn't an improvisation to read the defense. It is not like they sent ONE guy out into a pass route. They had several receivers out there. Why are you having such a hard time understanding this? Yeah Bob, you effing a-hole! |
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 16, 2012 15:17:56 GMT -6
It isn't an improvisation to read the defense. It is not like they sent ONE guy out into a pass route. They had several receivers out there. Why are you having such a hard time understanding this? 1 WR goes deep. 1 WR runs a slant. 1 TE runs a curl in the middle of the field. 1 RB checks the DE/LB (maybe chipping) then goes into the flat The QB checks the deep route, safety is over the top, looks at slant, LB is dropping under it, checks TE, covered by other LB, drops it to the RB in the flat. So...you're saying in the above scenario, if the QB ignores the safety over the top of the deep route, it is the coach's fault? The QB made a poor play, but that isn't a poor play call. You think it was a poor play call to send Vernon Davis on a deep crossing route, which is a much longer throw to the middle of the field, than running the ball with Gore or throwing a screen? Smith made the right read. Yates did not. It is as simple as that. dave's right i'm a sports retard |
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