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Post by Terd Ferguson on Jan 16, 2012 15:21:33 GMT -6
I understand you wanting to use conservative playcalling to protect the young QB, but he had options. He had thrown the ball well most of the day.
One thing I think they could have done there is roll him out. Parcells used to do that to Romo when he was first starting out. It cuts down the field and forces him to do something quickly (throw it, run it, or throw it away) because he isn't standing in the pocket facing pressure. I'm sure they stressed to him to be patient because time was not a real factor at that point. He just antsy and threw the ball up for grabs. It seems to work out well when Stafford does it.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 16, 2012 15:23:31 GMT -6
I understand you wanting to use conservative playcalling to protect the young QB, but he had options. He had thrown the ball well most of the day. One thing I think they could have done there is roll him out. Parcells used to do that to Romo when he was first starting out. It cuts down the field and forces him to do something quickly (throw it, run it, or throw it away) because he isn't standing in the pocket facing pressure. I'm sure they stressed to him to be patient because time was not a real factor at that point. He just antsy and threw the ball up for grabs. It seems to work out well when Stafford does it. yeah, a rollout would have definitely been a better option there but i still think you've got to at least TRY pounding it with arian foster before panic passing
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Jan 16, 2012 15:35:02 GMT -6
See...that is what gets to me about what you are saying. That was not a panic pass. It was a pass play. If the FS jumps the TE in the middle of the field you have Andre Johnson one on one on the outside. That is a matchup you win 80% of the time. The QB just made a sorry read and you keep calling it a "panic" or "terrible play call". It was neither. It was just a poor decision. The risk/reward was FAR too poor to let that go. You can throw that in the 2nd quarter of a early season game. You can't do that in the final 2 min of a 4th quarter playoff game. It was a poor decision by the QB, nothing more nothing less.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 16, 2012 16:26:17 GMT -6
See...that is what gets to me about what you are saying. That was not a panic pass. It was a pass play. If the FS jumps the TE in the middle of the field you have Andre Johnson one on one on the outside. That is a matchup you win 80% of the time. The QB just made a sorry read and you keep calling it a "panic" or "terrible play call". It was neither. It was just a poor decision. The risk/reward was FAR too poor to let that go. You can throw that in the 2nd quarter of a early season game. You can't do that in the final 2 min of a 4th quarter playoff game. It was a poor decision by the QB, nothing more nothing less. I guess what I need to clarify/grasp is that the panic was by Yates in throwing it, not by Kubiak in calling it - right?
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Jan 16, 2012 17:20:21 GMT -6
I don't think the throw was a panic. It wasn't like he was under duress. He actually thought he should let that ball fly.
Panic INT (to me) is when the QB is about to get crushed and throws it up for grabs and it gets picked. Maybe that is just me...doesn't matter. I don't think Houston was going past this weekend anyway, if they had somehow won that game.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Jan 16, 2012 20:47:30 GMT -6
I don't think Houston was going past this weekend anyway, if they had somehow won that game. I agree - Pats win this week regardless of opponent.
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Post by matt51180 on Jan 16, 2012 22:02:38 GMT -6
It isn't an improvisation to read the defense. It is not like they sent ONE guy out into a pass route. They had several receivers out there. Why are you having such a hard time understanding this? Yeah Bob, you effing a-hole! Dangit...I can't quit laughing at this..
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