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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 12, 2011 11:39:03 GMT -6
Did Miles pull a Crayton? I'd have to watch it again, but was he going full speed? I didn't think anything was wrong with the route when I watched, just looked like Romo overthrew him. According to Miles, he lost the ball in the lights and that is why he didn't get to it. If you watch Romo he looks amazed that Miles didn't get to it. I think there was enough air under it. Miles has to get to that ball.
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Post by mexicanjunior on Dec 12, 2011 11:46:24 GMT -6
I didn't think anything was wrong with the route when I watched, just looked like Romo overthrew him. According to Miles, he lost the ball in the lights and that is why he didn't get to it. If you watch Romo he looks amazed that Miles didn't get to it. I think there was enough air under it. Miles has to get to that ball. That could be a WR trying to protect and take the blame for his QB...fault could be had on both sides.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 12, 2011 12:11:28 GMT -6
I still question how good their timing is when Miles has practiced and played about 10 times total this year. No training camp. No preseason. A couple of games and a couple of practices.
I thought the pass looked a little long, but catchable. I thought Miles looked like he took off, coasted a couple of steps, then took off again. I don't know if he didn't know the ball was coming, didn't see it, or if I'm just seeing things.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Dec 12, 2011 14:34:38 GMT -6
I think it was not a perfect throw by Romo that Miles could have (and should have) caught. Both to blame somewhat, but definitely more Miles in this instance.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 12, 2011 16:48:26 GMT -6
I'll go back to the defense on this one. When you put up those kinds of numbers on offense, especially at home, you should win. The defense crapped the bed (along with special teams and once again the OL).
By the way, Kowalski once again looked better at C than Costa has. Costa might be the smartest center we have (and have had in a long time) but knowing the line calls and then getting blown up isn't going to help much.
A full offseason is needed with Woicik for alot of these marshmallows. Time to clean house. This team is mentally weak in too many places. We need fighters. This team needs a Michael Irvin type.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Dec 12, 2011 16:52:22 GMT -6
I'll go back to the defense on this one. When you put up those kinds of numbers on offense, especially at home, you should win. The defense crapped the bed (along with special teams and once again the OL). By the way, Kowalski once again looked better at C than Costa has. Costa might be the smartest center we have (and have had in a long time) but knowing the line calls and then getting blown up isn't going to help much. A full offseason is needed with Woicik for alot of these marshmallows. Time to clean house. This team is mentally weak in too many places. We need fighters. This team needs a Michael Irvin type. Agreed on all counts. Sparano got fired today. Now that Norv may have saved his gig with the Chargers recent turnaround, maybe Jerry should wise up and reunite Garrett with his compadre from a couple of years ago.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 12, 2011 18:11:50 GMT -6
Sparano's teams don't quit...I'll give them that. Maybe....it would be nice but I'm not holding my breath. I'd think they are more likely to promote Jimmy Robinson to WR Coach/Asst Offensive Coord.
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Post by bigdave1310 on Dec 12, 2011 19:53:03 GMT -6
Let the fault lay where it should. Was it poor coaching or average talent that lost the last couple of weeks? I'd say little of both but talent is overrated on this team. Defensive grading Ware A+, Lee A, Ratliff B, Jenkins B, Sensenbaugh B-, Newman B-, Elam C+, Brookings C, Hatcher C, Spencer C-, Coleman D, James D-. Scandrick and Church are C's. The rest of the backups are pretty bad too they grade as C- and D.
Now on offense our skilled position players are all B's or better. Some A's Witten, Romo, Smith but most B to B- Dez, Miles, Felix Fiametta, Robison, Phillips. The C players Holland and Free Then you've got failing grades Costa and Kosior. The line grades way to low along with a poor defensive talent pool to be champions.
Coaching I'm giving Garrett a passing grade for what hand he was dealt think if permitted to keep developing this thing we'd become a great team once again. Offensive line coach failing grade a D, wide receivers coach a C they have a lot of talent but average as far as coaching lots of bad routes and catching, running backs coaches an A Murray, Jones, Fiametta all performing way above expectations. TE ends coaching has to be an A with Wittin and Phillips the only sore spot Bennett but mostly because he's a moron. Special teams coaching a D- to many penalties no return yardage punts or kickoffs. Bailey and deep snapper both get B+.
So the additions to the team through the draft and free agent off the street rookies give scouting one of the highest grades Lee, Murray, Bailey, Dez, Robison, Fiametta, they're all products of great resent scouting.
Ownership/Leadership GM level front office a D not have a coordinator on offense is a huge mistake. More about the stadium and selling suites then building a team to be a winner. Honestly Jerry needs just get a top notch GM he can work with them work as a team not one controlling this thing more then the other Jerry's proven he knows more about football and the average owner. With someone like that this thing could be unstoppable.
To get better we need a plan seems like Garrett has a clear plan and just needs to have time.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 12, 2011 22:19:53 GMT -6
I don't know if anyone on the defense had a good game last night, even Ware looked average against an overmatched OL that is injured and young. No sacks on Eli, 400 yds passing and 2 TD drives in the final 5 min...not good.
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Post by bigdave1310 on Dec 12, 2011 23:18:46 GMT -6
You can block any one guy no matter how great they are. Lots of chips, doubles, QBs through quick routes and keying Ware. I want pressure up the middle or from a DE. When we frenzied in 09 on defense it was the only time Spencer played up to expectation. We need a couple other people helping. I think the pass rush could make our secondary look better. Easiest thing to do is move Ratliff to DE him and Hatcher start then play Lissemore at NT. Brooking has played better the last 3 weeks but Carter is faster and could add to a up the middle blitz package. Then VB starts and you cut Spencer kill that cancer statement is then made no collecting money if you're just going to suck. He doesn't play with in any kind of scheme makes me insane. Diving up field, hard charging outside rushes opening huge running lanes. Ware looked bad jumping offsides but he was trying to do what everyone was begging for at that point of the game get pressure get a sack. The last offsides he was a faction of a second off really would have changed the game that was the reason Eli panicked.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 12, 2011 23:47:28 GMT -6
Yes, he needs help but that penalty was huge...it really hurt.
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Post by bigdave1310 on Dec 13, 2011 1:04:53 GMT -6
Les and Russ watched the game with me they both went ape shit. I showed them in slow motion how close he was. He moved on the snap right as the ball moved but he was lined up to close to neutral zone. BTW one big coaching point that does need to be made to Ware is move back about 6 inches gives him more space to setup a swim or a speed rush. Same goes to Ratliff he is playing down to tight I loved that with guys like Fergueson big body NTs but speed guys need to play off more to read react.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Dec 13, 2011 6:37:38 GMT -6
talent is overrated on this team. Ownership/Leadership GM level front office a D not have a coordinator on offense is a huge mistake. More about the stadium and selling suites then building a team to be a winner. Honestly Jerry needs just get a top notch GM he can work with them work as a team not one controlling this thing more then the other Jerry's proven he knows more about football and the average owner. With someone like that this thing could be unstoppable. I agree with this.
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Post by bigdave1310 on Dec 13, 2011 8:11:03 GMT -6
Judging by the current talent and needs there a simple change that could benefit this team in 2012. Our top defensive talent is Ware, Lee, Carter, Ratliff, kinda Hatcher and VB would make a decent 4-3 defense. Ware and Hatcher at DE, Ratliff next to Ware at DT, Lee at the Mike, Carter at the Will, and VB at the Sam. Then you could play Spears or Lissamore at the other DT or draft/free agent pickup. You'd then be able to focus on a top notch corner and safety after cutting Newman.
Heck the 4-3 was created by Landry we've won 8 NFC championships with it and 5 Super Bowls. I love the Ryan's same thing I think about Garrett I think about Ryan dealt a bad hand talent is overrated so capitalize on what little talent you have put them in the best position to win.
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Post by mexicanjunior on Dec 13, 2011 8:19:45 GMT -6
Coaching I'm giving Garrett a passing grade for what hand he was dealt think if permitted to keep developing this thing we'd become a great team once again. Garrett has been terrible, he should be gone once the season is over and we have lost our last 5 games in a row. Too many stupid coaching decisions, unfocused play, penalties at the worst possible times and idiotic reasoning for his decisions. If Garrett asks Jerry about his job status after this team's collapse, Jerry should respond with, "I don't have a good answer for you right now..."
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