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Post by Terd Ferguson on Nov 30, 2011 12:01:53 GMT -6
A nice stat about Tony Romo from the NFL offices:
The quarterbacks who began career their careers in the Super Bowl era to reach 1,250 completions, 15,000 passing yards and 100 passing touchdowns in the fewest starts:
PLAYER TEAM SEASONS NO. OF STARTS
Aaron Rodgers Packers 2008-2011 58
Tony Romo Cowboys 2006-2010 58
Kurt Warner Rams/Giants 1999-2004 58
Peyton Manning Colts 1998-2001 59
Dan Marino Dolphins 1983-1987 59
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Nov 30, 2011 15:01:01 GMT -6
VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY nice
Michael Lombardi the other day acknowledged that Romo takes unfair criticism, based on the fact that Vick has missed games with cracked ribs (and his team has fallen out of contention), while Romo never missed a start when he had cracked ribs - yet NOBODY (at least media-wise) has criticized Vick, yet (Lombardi claims, and I completely agree) that Romo would be TORCHED if he had missed time like Vick with that very same ailment.
It will be so sweet if the Cowboys are able to win a Super Bowl with Romo (be it this year or one to come), so he can finally get vindicated from all of the suck-ass critics. I think the way he has played this year - overcoming the injury and also the two "meltdown" games (Jets and Lions) to lead this team while others in our very own division are falling by the wayside - speaks volumes to his level as a QB and his leadership.
To me, the Miami game on Thanksgiving might have been his best - not statistically, certainly - but just the way he persevered and repeatedly willed the team down the field in the second half. How many passes did he manage to complete while being sacked? I can think of at least 3-4. It's time he got his due. Most "fans" will withhold praise until he wins a Super Bowl, but it's easy to save kudos until then. Not me - I am standing here right now and telling you he is a great QB without whom this team would be looking in the rearview mirror at a series of 6-10 and 7-9 seasons AT BEST.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Nov 30, 2011 15:46:56 GMT -6
The comparisons with Dirk are fair. They were both looked at the same way both nationally and even by some locals. Dirk proved that he was good enough, if he just got some help (all superstars that have won titles got help). Romo can follow that same path. I think the OL and DBs are a year away, but you just never know.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Dec 12, 2011 14:51:07 GMT -6
After last night, Romo is 4th in the NFL in passer rating, with a stellar 100.6 on the season (higher even than his career rating of 96.4).
So far this December, Romo's passer rating for the month is an even higher (and rather eye-popping) 116.2, yet the team is 0-2 this month.
He doesn't deserve this shit. He's surrounded by a roster filled with underachieving and overpaid losers. True, exceptions like Witten, Ware and Sean Lee exist, but it's time we all come to grips with how little true "talent" is on this team. Some guys may have simply faded with age (Newman, Kosier, James), but most were just never as good as Jerry and staff (and us fans, too) originally thought they were.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 12, 2011 16:41:32 GMT -6
did you see his numbers from last night? Any QB that has a night like that should win by 20.
21-31 for 321 yds 4 TDs 0 INTS QB rating 141.3
those are insane numbers.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 12, 2011 16:43:30 GMT -6
I keep looking at a team like Denver and wondering why they can force a turnover when they need it and kick a 57 and 59 yard FG but when we try for our game tying FG from a much shorter distance, it gets blocked. Romo did a BETTER job of putting the team in a place to succeed than Tebow, but Tebow is "clutch" and Romo sucks...uh, ok. I guess every QB should just try to get his team within a 60 yd FG and they will have done their job, because those are really high percentage.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Dec 12, 2011 16:49:55 GMT -6
I keep looking at a team like Denver and wondering why they can force a turnover when they need it and kick a 57 and 59 yard FG but when we try for our game tying FG from a much shorter distance, it gets blocked. Romo did a BETTER job of putting the team in a place to succeed than Tebow, but Tebow is "clutch" and Romo sucks...uh, ok. I guess every QB should just try to get his team within a 60 yd FG and they will have done their job, because those are really high percentage. yeah, if tebow and romo were to switch teams right now, the broncos would be undefeated and the cowboys would be winless it AMAZES me how blinded people are by the tebow "story" |
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 12, 2011 18:10:09 GMT -6
You should be here in Denver and listen to the radio...swear to jeebus they are talking Superbowl...both the hosts and the fans calling in.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Dec 13, 2011 6:35:26 GMT -6
You should be here in Denver and listen to the radio...swear to jeebus they are talking Superbowl...both the hosts and the fans calling in. insanity |
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Dec 13, 2011 8:11:38 GMT -6
I guess I really don't understand than new Total QBR stat AT ALL. Romo was only TENTH in the league this week, despite his huge numbers. I guess they deduct massive points for not getting the win, but he led two 4th quarter TD drives, and I was under the impression that counted toward "clutch" factor. No turnovers, either. Guess I just don't understand what he did negatively to cause such a low Total QBR.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 13, 2011 10:45:07 GMT -6
his clutch factor was 1.7 I think...anything above .9 is considered good.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Dec 13, 2011 12:30:51 GMT -6
his clutch factor was 1.7 I think...anything above .9 is considered good. any idea what brought his overall Total QBR rating so low, considering he really didn't have many negatives? was it the safety? getting sacked multiple times? |
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 13, 2011 12:44:33 GMT -6
I don't understand some of the factors in the equation....I think the sacks do bring it down though.
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Dec 19, 2011 10:27:24 GMT -6
From Peter King's column today... sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/12/19/Week15/1.htmlSaturday night's 31-15 snoozer over the Bucs was the 75th regular season start of Tony Romo's Dallas career. It seems a good time to measure Romo against the great Cowboy quarterbacks of the past -- specifically the two Hall of Famers who preceded him in Dallas, Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman. The first 75 starts of the Cowboy Three's careers, along with the productivity in those 75 regular season games:
Dallas Cowboys Quarterbacks
How Tony Romo stacks up
Player W-L TD Int
Roger Staubach 57-18 86 64
Troy Aikman 44-31 78 70
Tony Romo 47-28 144 68 |
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Dec 19, 2011 11:32:14 GMT -6
The Win-Loss is relevant but the TD/INT are not as much because the game has changed so much. In Staubach's day they could mug WRs pretty much anytime the football wasn't RIGHT THERE.
The more important numbers are not represented here and neither is the quality of the defenses and OL that each of these guys had at their disposal. Romo sorely lacks in both of those departments which directly correlates to failures in big games.
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