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Post by bigdave on Aug 21, 2008 12:59:20 GMT -6
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Aug 21, 2008 13:02:26 GMT -6
Sad to see HOF players pass.
Did the players ever get their wishes to have him replaced? I wonder if any of them feel bad now...
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Post by bigdave on Aug 21, 2008 13:04:19 GMT -6
Is it going to be Robert Smith former Vikings running back to be the new union head.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Aug 21, 2008 13:13:07 GMT -6
I hope that whoever gets that job can go in and get negotiations done with the league and do 3 main things.
first, avoid any kind of work stoppage
second, get some kind of flexible cap similar to the NBA that allows you to overpay and keep your own players and possibly fix the rules with signing bonuses that will allow more freedom of movement through trades (don't accelerate the cap hit if a player that got a big bonus is traded, put it on the new team's cap instead)
third, a real rookie wage scale that severely cuts back on how much draft picks are paid.
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Post by matt51180 on Aug 21, 2008 13:29:22 GMT -6
The third one you listed is true. It's out of control how much these kids get paid before even stepping on an NFL field. Sure they proved themselves in college, but that is nothing compared to the NFL. Bet the Bengals would like some of that money back that they gave to Akili Smith & Kijana Carter.
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Post by bigdave on Aug 21, 2008 13:31:27 GMT -6
It makes it were you are stuck with Carpenter and Spears. A rookie cap would have had them off this roster a long time ago.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Aug 21, 2008 13:32:08 GMT -6
The third one you listed is true. It's out of control how much these kids get paid before even stepping on an NFL field. Sure they proved themselves in college, but that is nothing compared to the NFL. Bet the Bengals would like some of that money back that they gave to Akili Smith & Kijana Carter. and David Klingler and about 10 other guys...they were terrible for a very long time and had nothing on their roster to show for it. |
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Post by matt51180 on Aug 21, 2008 13:35:17 GMT -6
At least Palmer has shown something.
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Post by bigdave on Aug 21, 2008 14:11:27 GMT -6
I think there should be something in the Union rules to give Rookies two years to mature on a team. Permitting a team to keep 7 spots open for rookies only. Let the roster expand to 56, turns the league over and invests in the leagues future.
7 of these guys would make the team for sure
Lattimore, Keon RB
Atchison, Drew TE
Ottovegio, Jay P
Bradford, Mark WR
Bennett, Martellus TE
Walden, Erik LB
Jenkins, Mike CB
Jefferson, Mike WR
Amendola, Danny WR
Hannah, Rodney TE
Polk, Daniel WR
Scandrick, Orlando CB
Robertson, Darrell DE
Dixon, Marcus DE
Davis, Dowayne S
Jones, Felix RB
Choice, Tashard RB
Smith, Marcus DE
Crosslin, Julius FB
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Post by mexicanjunior on Aug 21, 2008 16:14:21 GMT -6
Tis a sad loss, I thought Upshaw did a decent job bargaining for his players against the owners...
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Post by bigdave on Aug 22, 2008 0:29:09 GMT -6
Yeah he said if they went back to the table the cap wouldn't be around anymore. Told the owners there would be no more salary cap.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Aug 22, 2008 1:57:38 GMT -6
Yeah he said if they went back to the table the cap wouldn't be around anymore. Told the owners there would be no more salary cap. Bargaining in the media...he would never have gotten the cap abolished, but they do need to fight for some changes like I pointed out previously. |
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Post by matt51180 on Aug 22, 2008 7:09:54 GMT -6
His last deal was his only one that remotely favored the players. His past deals were owner-friendly.
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