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Post by Sideshow Bob on Oct 31, 2011 7:57:01 GMT -6
bright spot, Laurent Robinson is the real deal and is NOT scared to play in Philly. agree - that guy is as solid a #3 wr as you'll find in this league what were the rams thinking letting him go??? |
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Oct 31, 2011 7:59:27 GMT -6
IMO, it is time to cut James and Brooking. Let Carter learn on the fly and bring back Orie Lemon and what ever else you can find out there....maybe move Butler inside. i would be on board with this i think the best plan for the rest of this season is to cut all the aging veterans (brooking, james, newman, etc.) and get young guys in there for as much playing time and development as possible it likely won't be much of a drop-off, if at all, because they will be more athletic and MUCH hungrier - it will definitely start paying major dividends next year |
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Oct 31, 2011 8:56:57 GMT -6
No reason to cut Newman...there isn't a line of CBs ready to move up. You could move Scandrick into the starting spot, but then who is #3? #4?
Newman will likely be re-signed in the offseason to a cheaper deal and possibly moved to the #3 CB spot, even if we draft another.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Oct 31, 2011 9:03:18 GMT -6
Players who should be cut -
Brooking - looks totally lost. I thought he could be a 2 down run stopper this year but I was wrong.
Start Carter in his place.
James - Not sure what happened here. He was always a liability against the pass but was effective vs the run. Seems to have just fallen off a cliff.
Bring back Orie Lemon.
Buehler - if our punter goes down, isn't he the logical choice for emergency punting? He has the big leg, right? He is a great athlete...should be able to adapt quickly.
Bailey has more than solidified the kicker spot. Cut Buehler and bring up Butler (CB) from the practice squad.
That is about it I think....the OL has enough youth on it already. Kosier could be replaced in the starting lineup by Loper if his plantar fascitis is pretty bad, which I have read it is. The RBs and WRs are already young. Marty B can take a step back and watch Phillips more than he plays. He should be allowed to leave in free agency this offseason.
DBs are all fairly young as well, except Newman but I already explained why I thought we should keep him.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Oct 31, 2011 9:11:17 GMT -6
I'm not sure I agree that Garrett isn't faring much better than Wade. Garrett is building this team on the fly (we are young all over the place). Last night sucked, no doubt. However it is still just one game and a division game at that. You think people in New Orleans aren't trying to figure out how the hell they got beaten by the RAMS?  With a backup QB?? You think the folks in Pitt are happy they beat NE? How about the Pats fans? How do they feel seeing us take them to the wire at home and then losing to Pitt? You think the Pitt fans had a different view of their team after week 1? I still think this team finishes 9-7 or 10-6 (barring major injuries). We will be hit or miss but should get better as the year goes on. We've all seen enough division game losses (UGLY ones) to know that records mean nothing. Very good teams in the NFC East (Superbowl teams) have lost to division rivals that only win 3 or 4 games for the whole season. It happens every year. We still control our own destiny and there is a real stretch of very winnable games right in front of us. Pile up a few wins and get some confidence, get the young guys more experience, and find a way into the playoffs. At that point, I'll take my chances with this group. They won't be the favorites, but that may be a good thing. We operate much better as underdogs than we do as favorites anyway. |
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Oct 31, 2011 14:14:11 GMT -6
I still think this team finishes 9-7 or 10-6 (barring major injuries). We will be hit or miss but should get better as the year goes on. I've been totally in agreement with thinking we'd finish 9-7 or 10-6 up until last night. It's probably way too kneejerk of me to let one loss change my opinion, but it's REALLY, REALLY hard for me to look at the team we saw last night finishing any better than 8-8 (which even seems like a long shot at this point). I know what you mean about the Saints losing to the Rams, but the difference is they have the luxury of laying such a turd. We lost that luxury when we blew the Jets and Lions games. No, we don't have to win EVERY game from here on out, but unless we play better than last night, who are we going to beat? The WINLESS Dolphins only lost AT the 5-2 NFC EAST LEADING Giants by a field goal yesterday. Can we say that's a guaranteed win anymore versus Miami? It's probably the cumulative hangover of that mauling last night so closely following the Rangers WS disappointment, but there's just nothing I can think of positive (outside of Laurent Robinson and DeMarco Murray) to take from last night - nothing outside of those two to build on going into next week. We need a complete turnaround and like a 500% improvement from virtually everyone else on the roster to beat even the worst team in this league. How is that going to happen? Where is that going to come from? The only way we can look at it is to consider last night a complete and total abberation. I guess that's possible, but just how probable is it? |
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Oct 31, 2011 15:17:49 GMT -6
I still think this team finishes 9-7 or 10-6 (barring major injuries). We will be hit or miss but should get better as the year goes on. I've been totally in agreement with thinking we'd finish 9-7 or 10-6 up until last night. It's probably way too kneejerk of me to let one loss change my opinion, but it's REALLY, REALLY hard for me to look at the team we saw last night finishing any better than 8-8 (which even seems like a long shot at this point). I know what you mean about the Saints losing to the Rams, but the difference is they have the luxury of laying such a turd. We lost that luxury when we blew the Jets and Lions games. No, we don't have to win EVERY game from here on out, but unless we play better than last night, who are we going to beat? The WINLESS Dolphins only lost AT the 5-2 NFC EAST LEADING Giants by a field goal yesterday. Can we say that's a guaranteed win anymore versus Miami? It's probably the cumulative hangover of that mauling last night so closely following the Rangers WS disappointment, but there's just nothing I can think of positive (outside of Laurent Robinson and DeMarco Murray) to take from last night - nothing outside of those two to build on going into next week. We need a complete turnaround and like a 500% improvement from virtually everyone else on the roster to beat even the worst team in this league. How is that going to happen? Where is that going to come from? The only way we can look at it is to consider last night a complete and total abberation. I guess that's possible, but just how probable is it? 1992, game right after OUR bye week. 31-7 PHILLY. SEA - win BUF - lose @ WAS - win MIA - win @ ARI - win NY GIANTS - lose @ TB - win PHI - lose @ NY GIANTS - lose That is 5-4. I don't think we get swept by NY, and I think Philly in Dallas is a different story. If we play like we did vs NE, Buffalo is not necessarily a loss. This team CAN be good...but they're going to have to get their heads out of their butts. |
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Nov 1, 2011 7:15:27 GMT -6
This team CAN be good...but they're going to have to get their heads out of their butts. Getting their heads out of their butts really is the main issue. I heard a segment this morning on The Ticket where they were going through reports from several different sources (local, including THA GOOOOOOSE, as well as reporters from other cities) all pretty unanimously saying (as well as quoting unnamed players) that Dez doesn't know how to run routes, doesn't show up to meetings on time, half-asses it at practice, and does nothing but throw tantrums on the sideline the entire game. Does NOT sound good. |
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Post by Sideshow Bob on Nov 1, 2011 7:19:42 GMT -6
This team CAN be good...but they're going to have to get their heads out of their butts. Getting their heads out of their butts really is the main issue. I heard a segment this morning on The Ticket where they were going through reports from several different sources (local, including THA GOOOOOOSE, as well as reporters from other cities) all pretty unanimously saying (as well as quoting unnamed players) that Dez doesn't know how to run routes, doesn't show up to meetings on time, half-asses it at practice, and does nothing but throw tantrums on the sideline the entire game. Does NOT sound good. This was one of the main articles they cited, from a black reporter (so no "race card" being played) who basically isolated on Dez the entire night: www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15929974/bryants-strange-antics-look-destined-to-burn-cowboysIt's impossible to say if the erratic behavior of Dallas wide receiver Dez Bryant is a problem. Or will be. Or if what I see means he's a few batteries short of a power cell. I do know this: Based on some of his sideline antics during Sunday night's game against Philadelphia, Bryant is headed down a path the Cowboys should not want to see. Bryant's curious, constant and borderline bizarre behavior that began in the first quarter never subsided. Strange is one word to describe it. Troubling is possibly another.
He constantly stormed up and down the sideline. He grabbed teammates by their shoulder pads, pleaded for the ball, had his pleas ignored by Tony Romo, caused teammates to walk away from him, tossed his helmet (twice), screamed at a game official over a pass interference non-call and overall displayed the temperament and anger management of a two-year-old.
One Cowboys player told me this is a constant with Bryant, and his sideline antics don't always go over well with some in the locker room.
The last time I saw anything remotely like Bryant's behavior against Philadelphia was Terrell Owens during his Eagles tenure and the infamous sideline meltdown with Donovan McNabb several years ago. We know what happened with Owens.
This isn't to say Bryant is a bad guy, but the behavior he displayed -- and I'm told by people I trust this happens every week -- isn't the kind of behavior you want in a player. Fiery is one thing but erratic is another.
Case in point: Late in the game, after some sort of outburst (again) on the sideline, the Cowboys were in Philadelphia's red zone. Bryant came in from the sideline seemingly agitated at something. He lined up wide left but clearly missed an audible from Romo.
The ball was snapped and the entire Dallas offense moved except ... Bryant. He stood in his two-point stance motionless for several seconds as everyone else moved. The play was for Bryant, but since he screwed up the snap count, the play was thrown off. Romo threw for Bryant and it went to a spot where Bryant was supposed to be but wasn't.
Watching Bryant on the sideline was more entertaining (and concerning) than the blowout itself. Bryant felt he was being held for much of the night by Eagles defensive backs. Early in the game, he demonstrated how they were holding him by forcefully grabbing the shoulder pads of a teammate while standing in front of Romo. Romo looked at Bryant, said nothing, then went back to looking at some still shots of the coverage the Eagles were playing.
In another instance, Bryant paced up and down the sideline directly in front of Romo. The quarterback looked once at Bryant and then ignored him.
In the second quarter, Bryant tried to speak with Romo, but Romo looked up, said, "OK, OK," and then looked away. Each time Bryant addressed Romo, Romo said little or nothing. Romo stayed cool the entire time. He did that with Bryant in his face for much of the evening.
In the final moments, Bryant totally lost his cool after he was clearly held by the Eagles. There was no question about the hold, but Bryant's behavior came close to drawing a flag. He screamed at a game official getting close to the official's face and, again, offered a demonstration of the pass interference call on a teammate. The official didn't look amused and I think Bryant was seconds away from a flag.
Again, this isn't about passion. I saw several Cowboys players display passion and frustration with the loss. Bryant's strange behavior is different. Very strange behavior. At some point this behavior is going to burn the Cowboys.
After the game, Bryant spent a solid three or four minutes looking for one player in particular: Mike Vick. He grabbed Vick and gave him a huge hug.
It was one of the few times on the night that Bryant showed restraint. Sort of.  |
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Post by mexicanjunior on Nov 1, 2011 7:43:49 GMT -6
If Bryant is turning into TO, Romo is going to go downhill quickly and I think it has already started. He doesn't trust Bryant to run proper routes and this make shift OL isn't going to give him enough time to let Dez ad-lib his way open. This season is turning into 2008 in a hurry, complete with embarrassment at Philly. 8-8 was the ceiling with no injuries in my mind, so with Sean Lee, Jenkins and Mcbriar adding to the already hurt players throughout the season, it is looking more and more like 7-9 or 6-10 to me.
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Post by Terd Ferguson on Nov 1, 2011 11:22:27 GMT -6
Maybe we can trade him...surely there is a team out there that sees what he is capable of and thinks they can "reach" him.
I HATE to say Deion was right, but it sure is looking that way.
With Austin and Robinson on board, the move can be made this offseason if necessary.
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Post by mexicanjunior on Nov 1, 2011 11:51:14 GMT -6
Maybe we can trade him...surely there is a team out there that sees what he is capable of and thinks they can "reach" him. I HATE to say Deion was right, but it sure is looking that way. With Austin and Robinson on board, the move can be made this offseason if necessary. I bet a team like Carolina, Minnesota or Jacksonville would love to take a chance on him. |
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With a backup QB??
